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		By: Tina		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2020 20:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thehorsesback.com/neck-threadworms-questions/#comment-4034&quot;&gt;Patti Woodbury Kuvik&lt;/a&gt;.

My mare who had biopsy done and confirmed both Onchocerca as well as Habronema from the biopsy of the neck bump, was itchy on Moxidectin as well. The other mare had edema (as its rare on Moxidectin) but she had it. Both mares got Moxidectin at first.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thehorsesback.com/neck-threadworms-questions/#comment-4034">Patti Woodbury Kuvik</a>.</p>
<p>My mare who had biopsy done and confirmed both Onchocerca as well as Habronema from the biopsy of the neck bump, was itchy on Moxidectin as well. The other mare had edema (as its rare on Moxidectin) but she had it. Both mares got Moxidectin at first.</p>
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		By: frances		</title>
		<link>https://thehorsesback.com/neck-threadworms-questions/#comment-83126</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2020 20:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh so interesting! May I add to the confusion and perhaps get some answers? Ever since they were foaled my horses have been on a regular schedule of ivermectin and an annual dose of Quest Plus (for tapes) Horses were raised in central Washington State (USA) where there are plenty of midges. When they were about 13 years old we started to winter over in California&#039;s Sierra foothills. No problems that first winter. Second winter the gelding became itchy, breaking out in sores mostly on sheath and flanks where hair coverage was thinner. It escalated into a full blown life threatening emergency. We took him back to Washington and within 3 days he was back to normal. If he had neck threadworms that were causing the problem they would have travelled with him, right? ?? I did question vets about this type of reaction as to being  frequently seen in California and was told there seemed to be clusters in areas along the Sierra foothills . I also questioned local horse owners and they reported that they sometimes had slight problems with their animals. So thinking that the local animals had some sort of immunity built up to whatever was causing the itchies, I never took the gelding back to California. Instead I returned with his stablemate, the mare and a filly who I had boarded out in Washington. Both of the girls developed an itch on their foreheads with lumpy scabbing underneath. I used a therapuetic grade of NEEM oil, skin-so-soft, and a few drops of tea tree essential oil to gently wipe their heads daily to soften the scabs and repel the midges. All the hair fell off their foreheads and the skin underneath was soft and clean. They eventually grew the hair back. My questions would be: the area of the forehead having a thin covering of hair and being close to a readily supply of blood would attract insects looking for a blood meal? area of the mane ad tail having a thick covering of hair and skin would be a poor supplier of blood and therefore not being attractive to insects seeking a blood meal? Midline and udder/genitals not being  readily accessible to the horse&#039;s attempts at removal would be attractive to insects? Could insects be seeking out skin debris etc rather than seeking a blood meal? Local environmental conditions affecting the number of insects, for example having a &quot;hatch&quot; at one time or another? So far this year my two girls have not had any issues at all due either to being on spirulina/flax year round or to the fact that there are no midges around. I think I am dealing/have dealt with insect bite sensitivity rather than threadworms.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh so interesting! May I add to the confusion and perhaps get some answers? Ever since they were foaled my horses have been on a regular schedule of ivermectin and an annual dose of Quest Plus (for tapes) Horses were raised in central Washington State (USA) where there are plenty of midges. When they were about 13 years old we started to winter over in California&#8217;s Sierra foothills. No problems that first winter. Second winter the gelding became itchy, breaking out in sores mostly on sheath and flanks where hair coverage was thinner. It escalated into a full blown life threatening emergency. We took him back to Washington and within 3 days he was back to normal. If he had neck threadworms that were causing the problem they would have travelled with him, right? ?? I did question vets about this type of reaction as to being  frequently seen in California and was told there seemed to be clusters in areas along the Sierra foothills . I also questioned local horse owners and they reported that they sometimes had slight problems with their animals. So thinking that the local animals had some sort of immunity built up to whatever was causing the itchies, I never took the gelding back to California. Instead I returned with his stablemate, the mare and a filly who I had boarded out in Washington. Both of the girls developed an itch on their foreheads with lumpy scabbing underneath. I used a therapuetic grade of NEEM oil, skin-so-soft, and a few drops of tea tree essential oil to gently wipe their heads daily to soften the scabs and repel the midges. All the hair fell off their foreheads and the skin underneath was soft and clean. They eventually grew the hair back. My questions would be: the area of the forehead having a thin covering of hair and being close to a readily supply of blood would attract insects looking for a blood meal? area of the mane ad tail having a thick covering of hair and skin would be a poor supplier of blood and therefore not being attractive to insects seeking a blood meal? Midline and udder/genitals not being  readily accessible to the horse&#8217;s attempts at removal would be attractive to insects? Could insects be seeking out skin debris etc rather than seeking a blood meal? Local environmental conditions affecting the number of insects, for example having a &#8220;hatch&#8221; at one time or another? So far this year my two girls have not had any issues at all due either to being on spirulina/flax year round or to the fact that there are no midges around. I think I am dealing/have dealt with insect bite sensitivity rather than threadworms.</p>
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		By: Jane @ THB		</title>
		<link>https://thehorsesback.com/neck-threadworms-questions/#comment-66041</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2017 21:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thehorsesback.com/neck-threadworms-questions/#comment-66040&quot;&gt;Jane @ THB&lt;/a&gt;.

On reflection, it was probably the pour-on that was being discussed.

Just glancing at studies comparing results on gastrointestinal worms, it seems to be that there is some efficacy in reducing fecal egg counts, but that overall effectiveness is lower due to the lower concentration of ivermectin in pour-ons.

Seeing that more intensive ivermectin administration is needed to knock back the microfilaraie of the neck threadworm (not a gastrointestinal worm), then it could be that a spray-on is even less effective than a pour-on. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thehorsesback.com/neck-threadworms-questions/#comment-66040">Jane @ THB</a>.</p>
<p>On reflection, it was probably the pour-on that was being discussed.</p>
<p>Just glancing at studies comparing results on gastrointestinal worms, it seems to be that there is some efficacy in reducing fecal egg counts, but that overall effectiveness is lower due to the lower concentration of ivermectin in pour-ons.</p>
<p>Seeing that more intensive ivermectin administration is needed to knock back the microfilaraie of the neck threadworm (not a gastrointestinal worm), then it could be that a spray-on is even less effective than a pour-on. </p>
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		By: Jane @ THB		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2017 21:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thehorsesback.com/neck-threadworms-questions/#comment-66038&quot;&gt;Lex Kromhout&lt;/a&gt;.

I believe someone brought it up in the comments after the first article, &lt;a href=&quot;https://thehorsesback.com/neck-threadworms/&quot;&gt;The Disturbing Truth About...&lt;/a&gt; and I seem to remember somebody expressing a concern about DMSO content, the skin thicknesses being very different in cattle. What do you see as the advantages of using a spray?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thehorsesback.com/neck-threadworms-questions/#comment-66038">Lex Kromhout</a>.</p>
<p>I believe someone brought it up in the comments after the first article, <a href="https://thehorsesback.com/neck-threadworms/">The Disturbing Truth About&#8230;</a> and I seem to remember somebody expressing a concern about DMSO content, the skin thicknesses being very different in cattle. What do you see as the advantages of using a spray?</p>
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		By: Lex Kromhout		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2017 19:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Cattle worker Ivermectin that is]]></description>
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		By: Lex Kromhout		</title>
		<link>https://thehorsesback.com/neck-threadworms-questions/#comment-66038</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2017 19:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Has anyone ever tried to spray ivermectian Cattle worker in low doses on a horse on a daily basis using a conventional bug spray bottle applicator for an extended period of time to rid thread worms?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone ever tried to spray ivermectian Cattle worker in low doses on a horse on a daily basis using a conventional bug spray bottle applicator for an extended period of time to rid thread worms?</p>
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		By: Jane @ THB		</title>
		<link>https://thehorsesback.com/neck-threadworms-questions/#comment-57468</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2016 22:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thehorsesback.com/neck-threadworms-questions/#comment-56678&quot;&gt;Elizabeth Elmore&lt;/a&gt;.

That&#039;s interesting, isn&#039;t it? Obviously if the Auranofin was at trial stage last year, it&#039;s some way off being licensed for medical or veterinary use. If only the equine issue would receive greater recognition, then there might be a greater push for that (ie, a market exists).

I can picture a trial in the use of doxycycline in equines, though! I must finish that lit review... unfortunately my research area is different.

Great information, thank you!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thehorsesback.com/neck-threadworms-questions/#comment-56678">Elizabeth Elmore</a>.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s interesting, isn&#8217;t it? Obviously if the Auranofin was at trial stage last year, it&#8217;s some way off being licensed for medical or veterinary use. If only the equine issue would receive greater recognition, then there might be a greater push for that (ie, a market exists).</p>
<p>I can picture a trial in the use of doxycycline in equines, though! I must finish that lit review&#8230; unfortunately my research area is different.</p>
<p>Great information, thank you!</p>
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		By: Elizabeth Elmore		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jul 2016 13:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jane:
Two things
The Onchoriea, at least the human ones  are dependent on the bacteria Walbachia to reproduce.
A 2 month run of doxycycline kills the Walbachia and sterilizes the adult worms. 

Also it appears that Auranofin a human arthritis drug, can kill half of the adult worms with each dose. 
http://journals.plos.org/plosntds/article?id=10.1371/journal.pntd.0003534]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jane:<br />
Two things<br />
The Onchoriea, at least the human ones  are dependent on the bacteria Walbachia to reproduce.<br />
A 2 month run of doxycycline kills the Walbachia and sterilizes the adult worms. </p>
<p>Also it appears that Auranofin a human arthritis drug, can kill half of the adult worms with each dose.<br />
<a href="http://journals.plos.org/plosntds/article?id=10.1371/journal.pntd.0003534" rel="nofollow ugc">http://journals.plos.org/plosntds/article?id=10.1371/journal.pntd.0003534</a></p>
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		By: Jane @ THB		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jane @ THB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2015 22:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thehorsesback.com/neck-threadworms-questions/#comment-49044&quot;&gt;Claire&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks Claire! I think there is definitely regional variation in the culicoides and also in the areas of the horse that they bite. I still stand by the questions asked in this post after having done further reading in the literature on the subjects, much of which relates to sweet/Queensland/summer itch.

As for NTW not being present in a region, well, I&#039;d have presumed it wasn&#039;t prevalent in the UK, yet a clutch of owners have come forward reporting positive repsonses to ivermectin in itchy horses following the floods of recent years. There must be others &#039;hidden&#039; amongst the itching horse population, but with less severe symptoms.

As for the extent of problematic NTW in more temperate areas, I imagine it occurs where three factors combine: enough horses with NTW to &#039;seed&#039; the population, a large and prevalent number of culidoid vectors, and enough carrier horses to throw up the minority of cases with a severe, highly visible response.

Meanwhile, ivermectin remains a quick, easy and cheap way to identify or eliminate NTW in the case of severely itching horses.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thehorsesback.com/neck-threadworms-questions/#comment-49044">Claire</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks Claire! I think there is definitely regional variation in the culicoides and also in the areas of the horse that they bite. I still stand by the questions asked in this post after having done further reading in the literature on the subjects, much of which relates to sweet/Queensland/summer itch.</p>
<p>As for NTW not being present in a region, well, I&#8217;d have presumed it wasn&#8217;t prevalent in the UK, yet a clutch of owners have come forward reporting positive repsonses to ivermectin in itchy horses following the floods of recent years. There must be others &#8216;hidden&#8217; amongst the itching horse population, but with less severe symptoms.</p>
<p>As for the extent of problematic NTW in more temperate areas, I imagine it occurs where three factors combine: enough horses with NTW to &#8216;seed&#8217; the population, a large and prevalent number of culidoid vectors, and enough carrier horses to throw up the minority of cases with a severe, highly visible response.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, ivermectin remains a quick, easy and cheap way to identify or eliminate NTW in the case of severely itching horses.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2015 21:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Is there any research on other possible insect vectors for the microfilariae, or are they culicoid specific?   Here in New Zealand we don&#039;t have a culicoid midge, but we do have plenty of other little bitey buggers right around the country .  And more than enough horses are imported from other areas of the world that there MUST be a small population of NT infected horses here, even though &#039;common knowledge&#039; is that they (NT) don&#039;t exist here.  Given that small population, would that mean that we are at risk of a slow spread into the rest of the horse population via our local biting insects, or is the lack of a culicoid midge protection against that?
I&#039;ve known a number of horses with variations on sweet itch or general allergy itchiness that could possibly fit into the NT symptoms (none of them imported) - sadly they are all long gone to the big paddock in the sky or I&#039;ve lost contact of where they are, so there&#039;s no way to try the ivermectin and see what the reaction is, but I&#039;ll be sure to remember it for future cases.  
Claire Vale, New Zealand]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there any research on other possible insect vectors for the microfilariae, or are they culicoid specific?   Here in New Zealand we don&#8217;t have a culicoid midge, but we do have plenty of other little bitey buggers right around the country .  And more than enough horses are imported from other areas of the world that there MUST be a small population of NT infected horses here, even though &#8216;common knowledge&#8217; is that they (NT) don&#8217;t exist here.  Given that small population, would that mean that we are at risk of a slow spread into the rest of the horse population via our local biting insects, or is the lack of a culicoid midge protection against that?<br />
I&#8217;ve known a number of horses with variations on sweet itch or general allergy itchiness that could possibly fit into the NT symptoms (none of them imported) &#8211; sadly they are all long gone to the big paddock in the sky or I&#8217;ve lost contact of where they are, so there&#8217;s no way to try the ivermectin and see what the reaction is, but I&#8217;ll be sure to remember it for future cases.<br />
Claire Vale, New Zealand</p>
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